[KenMavor]

Just got the email.....

Same over night rates but slightly higher day time rates.

Still trying to figure out whether the £10 a month is worth it as we are always charging our PHEV overnight and never during the day.

Works well. Cost is about 95p to fully charge overnight and we get 40 miles, or so, when driving. Saving us about £45 quid a month.

Is the new drive tariff worth it? The cheapest time will always be overnight so seems a bit pointless to me.

If the offer was £10 a month at the overnight rate to charge during the day then maybe worth it.

[TAYLOROY]

Just done the sums after £120 credit, adding the slight difference from next drive v5 I would have saved £70. Unfortunately Range Rover not listed as supported.

[KenMavor]

Suspect I will save even less as I have a PHEV and not a full EV so savings will be minimal. It only actually cost me 95p to fully charge the car. Where can you see the list of cars? Thanks.

[Andy65]

@TAYLOROY @KenMavor

The T&Cs for Next Drive can be found here. There's no list of supported vehicles or any mention of one that I can see, just this clause:

3. Eligibility.
3.1 To be eligible for this tariff you must:
3.2 Must own or lease an electric or hybrid vehicle and charge it at your home. If you do not meet this eligibility criteria, we reserve the right to remove you from this tariff.

To me, any vehicle classed as PHEV by the government for VED purposes would therefore be eligible and I can't see how eonnext can refuse.
I doubt that there is an actual list of cars as this would need to be updated regularly. If they have said that Range Rover is not supported and it's a plug in model then I don't see how they can refuse, most likely they have got it wrong.

The other interesting clause is this:

1.8 Due to the way this tariff works, your In-Home Display will stop working.

[KenMavor]

Thanks.
Can't really see any benefit for a PHEV owner to be honest. Maybe a full EV as it would allow you to charge, at the cheap rates, during the day for up to a tenner.

I'll have another look and see if I can make it work but suspect no.

Having said that the saving wouldn't be restricted to just the car charging. Looking at out actual daily consumption there is a spike, every day, when our electric show is used. Mmmmm.

[KenMavor]

Originally Posted by Andy65

@TAYLOROY @KenMavor

The T&Cs for Next Drive can be found here. There's no list of supported vehicles or any mention of one that I can see, just this clause:

3. Eligibility.
3.1 To be eligible for this tariff you must:
3.2 Must own or lease an electric or hybrid vehicle and charge it at your home. If you do not meet this eligibility criteria, we reserve the right to remove you from this tariff.

To me, any vehicle classed as PHEV by the government for VED purposes would therefore be eligible and I can't see how eonnext can refuse.
I doubt that there is an actual list of cars as this would need to be updated regularly. If they have said that Range Rover is not supported and it's a plug in model then I don't see how they can refuse, most likely they have got it wrong.

The other interesting clause is this:

1.8 Due to the way this tariff works, your In-Home Display will stop working.

Looking in the app it looks like only full EVs are there. No Phevs.

[geoffers]

Originally Posted by Andy65

@TAYLOROY @KenMavor .... any vehicle classed as PHEV by the government for VED purposes would therefore be eligible and I can't see how eonnext can refuse.... If they have said that Range Rover is not supported and it's a plug in model then I don't see how they can refuse...

Having looked at the requirements for the "tentacled one" and this new EOn Smart Drive, I think the supplier has to have the capability of communicating with either the EV charger or the vehicle itself, so there's a two-way conversation established for setting up the charging process.

There are only certain makes of chargers listed which octopus can talk to, and they also have a list of cars which are compatible communication wise - I know that my PHEV isn't on this list.

So to me it looks like EOn are trying to emulate something like the intelligent octopus system, and if the cars can't communicate with the system they presumably aren't eligible

[TAYLOROY]

Disappointing as my car and Hypervault charger are both compatible on intelligent octopus go.
I use about 5000 kWh per year at night at the moment, so next drive works great.
I also charge in the day about 3 times a week so this may have saved me a bit more.
Hopefully eon will improve this tariff and eventually open it up for more vehicles / chargers.

[Andy65]

@geoffers

Suppliers trying to dictate what car/charger a customer has doesn't seem like a way to attract customers to me. This isn't to do with the idea of batteries feeding back into the grid is it? I can't imagine why any car owner would want to do that either.

[meldrewreborn]

@Andy65

suppliers Need to be sure that connected devices will work with their systems - a bit like plug and play stuff on PC’s. Given that they struggle to get smart meters to communicate properly, I’d prefer them to concentrate their efforts on the latter and not get sidetracked on what is after all a niche market.