Should we think more about the cost of heating hot water?

  • meldrewreborn's Avatar
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    @meldrewreborn

    Over the summer months I use less than 40 kWh of gas, the bills are mostly just the standing charges.

    My average gas consumption over 17 years for the months of June, July and August is 5.1 kWh (so 5.1 per month for each of those 3 months.) – which comprises both cooking and water heating. That is 1.03% for each of those months of my total average annual consumption, which in the past has been somewhat higher than I use now.

    64% of my gas consumption is in the period December to March.
    Current Eon Next customer, ex EDF, Zog and Symbio. Don't think dual fuel saves money and think the smart meter programme is a waste of our money. Chronologically Gifted. If I offend let me know by private message, but I’ll continue to express my opinions nonetheless.
  • meldrewreborn's Avatar
    Level 92
    @meldrewreborn

    I've checked back through my bills, and my summer usage averages at about 80 to 90 kwh per month, which is about a fifteenth of my monthly winter usage amount during the coldest months.

    If that were your consumption to heat water the year round that would come to over 1,000 kWh, which is somewhat less then my computation (for 2!!) so perhaps I should cut down on my showering!! But at todays gas prices (inc VAT) that's circa £70. If you were using electricity it would be over £300. That's why thinking about the cost of heating water is, I think, so important.

    I like to think that I'm relatively careful in my energy use, but I can see now that I'm not in the same league as some other forum members. Where's @JoeSoap when I need a more significant user than I?
  • JoeSoap's Avatar
    Level 91
    @meldrewreborn

    Just to cheer you up… average daily gas consumption in June, July and August last year was 25kwh or 750kwh per month.

    Nearly 28kwh used yesterday.

    And me a pensioner too ☹️
    I'm an Eon Next dual fuel customer with no particular expertise but have some time on my hands that I am using to try and help out a bit.
  • Tommysgirl's Avatar
    Level 63
    @meldrewreborn

    My gas consumption will be lower because it's for one, (with me living alone). That's a very good point about the difference between the cost of heating water by gas or electricity. I can remember when our gas boiler the house builders installed failed a number of years ago and we were waiting for a new one, we heated the water in the cylinder tank with an immersion heater, and it cost quite a lot more than using gas.
  • Andy65's Avatar
    Level 51
    @meldrewreborn

    I've just checked my spreadsheet again and I should have said less than 30 kWh for gas (sausage fingers!) and I'm counting summer months as May to October, so less than 30 kWh over the 6 months. Based upon my average annual gas usage, I expect standing charges to make up 52% of my total annual gas bill.

    It's surprising how much you can save with little effort in my opinion. Whilst many dislike the high energy costs, they don't take regular readings, analyse their usage or see where they can save like some of us do. I also believe that monthly direct debits also have played a part. Back in the day when you were billed quarterly and paid the bill quarterly, you needed to watch what you used and budget for the hefty winter bills. None of this modern day spreadsheet nonsense or even calculators, converting ft3 to kWh with just a pencil and paper.

    Now that it's averaged over the year and paid monthly, many just see it as just another regular payment that they probably can't influence. I'd also say that quite a high percentage couldn't say how many direct debits go out every month either.
  • meldrewreborn's Avatar
    Level 92
    @meldrewreborn

    Just to cheer you up… average daily gas consumption in June, July and August last year was 25kwh or 750kwh per month.

    Nearly 28kwh used yesterday.

    And me a pensioner too ☹️

    Still it’s nice in your swimming pool, I presume?😇🤣
  • meldrewreborn's Avatar
    Level 92
    @meldrewreborn

    I've just checked my spreadsheet again and I should have said less than 30 kWh for gas (sausage fingers!) and I'm counting summer months as May to October, so less than 30 kWh over the 6 months. Based upon my average annual gas usage, I expect standing charges to make up 52% of my total annual gas bill.

    It's surprising how much you can save with little effort in my opinion. Whilst many dislike the high energy costs, they don't take regular readings, analyse their usage or see where they can save like some of us do. I also believe that monthly direct debits also have played a part. Back in the day when you were billed quarterly and paid the bill quarterly, you needed to watch what you used and budget for the hefty winter bills. None of this modern day spreadsheet nonsense or even calculators, converting ft3 to kWh with just a pencil and paper.

    Now that it's averaged over the year and paid monthly, many just see it as just another regular payment that they probably can't influence. I'd also say that quite a high percentage couldn't say how many direct debits go out every month either.

    that’s an impressively low gas consumption and I salute you. I could use less than I do ( as will almost everybody) but I also value my comfort, living style and Mrs M. Affordability will come into play too. But as you say, some people (most?) complain about their costs but then do little to tackle their root cause, their consumption. Hence the reasoning behind this thread, to encourage people to to take the first step and to think about what drives their costs.