Total silence from E.ON Next. A two rate smart meter in dumb mode just needs a visit from a meter reader. Do they still exist? The meter location is not unusual, and was probably to reduce the risk of tampering by magnets.
Alternatively a DCC provided SKU3 system might work, but can I get one?
The contract with Telephonica runs to 2033 for 2g!
Current Eon Next customer, ex EDF, Zog and Symbio. Don't think dual fuel saves money and think the smart meter programme is a waste of our money. Chronologically Gifted. If I offend let me know by private message, but I’ll continue to express my opinions nonetheless.
You may find this interesting. Apparently as 3g switches off, existing hubs will communicate via 2g. Whereas my installer (early Dec24) told me I was being given a 4g hub, this may have not been the truth, as full roll out isn't until mid 2025. I don't think the DCC is that interested in consumers, as its focus is on energy suppliers and generator, and they have no domestic facing side.
The contract DCC signed with the CSP does not provide for any guaranteed coverage. In 2017 Telefonica switched off my 2G coverage which had been present for the previous 20 years. This means that 2G might have almost no coverage and there is nothing the DCC can do about it. Perhaps this is why they signed with Vodafone for 4G. The CSPs lie to OFCOM about 4G coverage, and because OFCOM is funded by licences from the CSPs they are powerless.
As I understand it, 2g for smart metering is a different species to 2g for mobiles. Given what DCC say in that link I provided, it must be the case, although I’m no expert.
I read the article you posted a link to. I suspect your handle indicates the same level of cynicism as I have when it comes to official bodies reporting of ‘the facts’
2G etc refers to the radio link portion of the cellular system. Whilst it might be true that there is no requirement for cell switching as needed for a mobile system, there may be issues with channel allocation and usage. The SIM card is the way in which different users have different facilities, although eSIM is now prevalent.
However, this is a way off of my original problem. My RTS meter is inaccessible - probably seen as a security measure, as I mentioned before. Without a DCC connection a smart meter with more than one rate is useless.
As suggested, moving the meter is a solution, but the DNO insists they can only move a single rate meter. It will also cost an amount which I would not recover in my lifetime. Installing a smart meter which I cannot read, and then getting both the DNO and E.ON Next to move this meter to a new accessible location is another hurdle. Finally, since it is still going to be a meter in dumb mode, no smart meter tariffs will be available.
BTW OFCOM insist there is mobile coverage but DCC say otherwise. Perhaps 4G will solve the problem. I particularly noted that the DCC document you linked to referred to LTE, which is the term which encompasses 4G but also covers longer range slower links more appropriate for metering.
A while ago I posed your situation as a hypothetical. The eventual advice was that Eon Next would fit a two tier meter, which would require you ( or their meter reader) to read it. The meter has an internal clock which would stay in quite accurate timekeeping. I’ll try to find it - it arose from an Eon Next announcement on the forum for customers to get on getting their meters swapped out.
@LeighH_EONNext I'm worried about what will happen when the RTS is turned off - at the minute I have an Economy 10 meter and know I'll have to have a smart meter soon, but my house is all electric with storage heaters that are controlled by RTS at the moment, and come on and go off on the economy 10 hours. The website states the smart meter will work in the same way, but when contacting EON they say I have to contact National Grid, which I did, and they said it's nothing to do with them!
The only issues are whether you have coverage for the smart meter to work properly, and then, assuming they will, whether Eon Next will continue to support the E10 hours and pricing that you currently have.
In the north the smart meters communicate back to Eon next by a radio signal , in the south its by mobile.
Customer services should be able to answer these matters for you. If they can't (or won't) then post back here and we'll try to help, but in most cases the switch will go smoothly. I would recommend moving quickly on this - I fully expect too many customers will leave it to the last minute and then find they have problems on switch off day.
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