New smart meter but no bill for 6 weeks or so.

  • geoffers's Avatar
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    @Andy65
    A hybrid wouldn’t need much charging!
    Mine's got a 15kWh battery so I don't need a dedicated charge point: running from a 13amp plug at 2kW (= 8 amps, equivalent to a 2 bar electric fire)
    So the 7hrs of off peak electricity gives me a full charge if I've run it down to near zero : perfik😁
    Last edited by geoffers; 11 Hours Ago at 23:04.
  • Andy65's Avatar
    Level 49
    @Andy65

    A hybrid wouldn’t need much charging!
    @meldrewreborn

    True but they don't go very far on electric either. A hybrid is a sensible compromise towards reducing emissions but not at the cost new that they are. Personally speaking I wouldn't allow hybrids to be eligible for EV tariffs, no offence @geoffers 😉, but hybrids were incentivised by the Government in terms of BIK in order to make electric sales a lot better than they would have been. Most fleet operators will be driving on all petrol/diesel but with zero or little BIK. I think the BIK rates for hybrids have increased a bit recently but not by that much.
  • geoffers's Avatar
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    @meldrewreborn

    True but they don't go very far on electric either. A hybrid is a sensible compromise towards reducing emissions but not at the cost new that they are. ....hybrids were incentivised by the Government in terms of BIK in order to make electric sales a lot better than they would have been.
    I totally agree with your "hybrid is a sensible compromise towards reducing emissions" statement, and actually consider that hybrids are the only viable element of EV implementation, with the view that "low emission" not "zero emission" should be the target.

    The green/government push towards EVs and nothing else just ain't gonna work. Apart from the lack of the grid's capability for handling demand: Just looking at the number of cars in every street in the city, parked on either side of every suburban road with no access to a charging point - how are they ever going to manage to go electric?

    A lot of major manufacturers are now seriously reviewing their move towards EV manufacture. Have a look at this "Harry's Motors" vid where he goes into this in detail (focusing on higher value EVs, but very valid for all)
    Last edited by geoffers; 1 Hour Ago at 08:36.
  • meldrewreborn's Avatar
    Level 92
    @geoffers @Andy65

    my hybrid delivers 55 MPG but isn’t a plug in hybrid, so the only charging would be of its small 12v battery, not the drive battery.
    its nearly 8 years old now, and has given me zero VED all that time. I’m happy with it, although in strict financial terms it’s still costly because of servicing and insurance. Convenience is why I still run a car at all.
    Current Eon Next customer, ex EDF, Zog and Symbio. Don't think dual fuel saves money and don't like smart meters. Chronologically Gifted. If I offend let me know by private message, but I’ll continue to express my opinions nonetheless.