@retrotecchie
...If I had a smart meter I would not want it to send reading every 30 minutes...
Why on earth not? - if you want to ultimately benefit from cheaper ToU rates your supplier needs to know when you are using the cheaper rate electricity so you can be charged accordingly.
I'm on the next drive tariff, so get charged just over 9p for electricity between midnight and 7am, so am only too happy for eon too monitor my usage ½ hourly 👍
"Smart Meters" are fine as long as you treat as dumb. Do what you are doing now before changing and billing will not be a problem, (one can never guarantee anything 100%).
Why on earth not? - if you want to ultimately benefit from cheaper ToU rates your supplier needs to know when you are using the cheaper rate electricity so you can be charged accordingly.
I'm on the next drive tariff, so get charged just over 9p for electricity between midnight and 7am, so am only too happy for eon too monitor my usage ½ hourly 👍
Although it begs the question, would not just a read at midnight and another at 7am be sufficient to correctly bill for the lower rate electricity with ToU tariffs? Having all the half-hourly intervals in between would make diddly squat difference to the bill.
In fact, as the smart meter stores several months worth of half-hourly readings, just doing a download once a month would be more than adequate for billing purposes.
Economy 7 or 10 are ToU tariffs and a non-smart E7 or E10 meter does the job well enough without any problem.
Last edited by retrotecchie; 28-01-24 at 18:00.
Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player. I DON'T work for or on behalf of EON.Next, but am willing to try and help if I can. Not on mains gas, mobile network or mains drainage. House heated almost entirely by baby dragons.
Although it begs the question, would not just a read at midnight and another at 7am be sufficient to correctly bill for the lower rate electricity with ToU tariffs? Having all the half-hourly intervals in between would make diddly squat difference to the bill.
In fact, as the smart meter stores several months worth of half-hourly readings, just doing a download once a month would be more than adequate for billing purposes.
Economy 7 or 10 are ToU tariffs and a non-smart E7 or E10 meter does the job well enough without any problem.
Energy suppliers currently buy their electricity in half hourly windows with prices charged being based on the demand on the grid, so the ultimate aim of ToU tariff pricing will presumably be to match the consumer's pricing to the actual cost of the energy supply.
So all this load shifting palaver will enable people to choose the cheaper pricing intervals for their heavier energy use.
I think "intelligent octopus" already do something like this for their EV charging tariff
I do not own an electric car and neither I drive. Also I am on a fixed tariff and I pay the same price any time of the day.
OK - I appreciate that, but the point is they plan to offer ToU tariffs for everyone, with the aim of moving load on the grid to times where there is less demand.
In the perfect world this would mean they could meet demand without needing to build more power stations, and with the move away from fossil fuel power generation this becomes a far more important part of sharing out a scarce resource
Agreed....it's not gonna happen in mine either, and I'm still a nipper. Smart meter rollout started in 2011. 13 years later, less than 42% of consumers have fully functional smart meters. Rollout has slowed significantly as people have realised they aren't 'as advertised' and so the next 58% will take at least another 15 years. Full 3g switch off will happen in 8 years, rendering much of the existing smart meter base useless.
So the plan to have ToU and timed load management for everyone is entirely pie in the sky. The energy industry know that. OFGEM know that. Anyone with any common sense knows that. The government know that, but they'll just kick the can further down the road knowing it will be 'somebody else's problem'. But in the meanwhile, we're paying for it. We have been for the last decade and we will be for the next.
Throwing good money after bad, I say. Better to scrap the whole mess, and instead throw the money into bringing the grid kicking and screaming into the 20th Century.
@geoffers they can only introduce TOU tarrrifs for those who have a functioning smart meter - not everyone!
Current Eon Next customer, ex EDF, Zog and Symbio. Don't think dual fuel saves money and don't like smart meters. Chronologically Gifted. If I offend let me know by private message, but I’ll continue to express my opinions nonetheless.
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