Thoughts and Experiences on Driving an EV

Beki

24-07-23

@P962c I suppose they use the roads too and tax is not just about emissions is it?

I don't know if I'm confident that EV's are even the 'future of travel' at the moment. With the arguments around the impact of the lithium mining, I'm not sure if there will ever be a 'greener' option to travel. We've got a long way to go as a consumer society to make changes with our day-to-day travel... Even with the protests that have been making headlines recently, the oil infrastructure isn't going to stop anytime soon.

Level 91

JoeSoap

24-07-23

Originally Posted by WizzyWigg

Well if that's not saving the planet, what is! 👍👴😉

I like to think I’m doing my bit 😇

I'm an Eon Next dual fuel customer with no particular expertise but have some time on my hands that I am using to try and help out a bit.

Level 87

WizzyWigg

24-07-23

Originally Posted by JoeSoap

I like to think I’m doing my bit 😇

Definitely an award required. 🏆. See you in the morning for my daily breathing exercises. 😂😂😂😂😂

Level 8

P962c

25-07-23

@Beki_EONNext
Morning Beki

Totally agree with your comments on society.

I think EVs will only be one form of travel for the future.
I also think that battery technology will also advance quickly to make them less reliant or even not reliant on lithium. There are some interesting things already going on in this field.
EV's using current technology to help reduce emissions may turn out to be a stop gap . One thing for sure is everything is happening far to slowly

I am sure sustainable fuels the can be used in normal engines will have a part to play.

We will also be using oil for other things rather than fuel for a while. We do need to stop drilling for oil and gas that is for sure.

We sure have stop giving the go ahead to things like new coal mines

We also need to be looking at alternative materials for manufacturing

Dangerous times we are living in, for all sorts of reasons

Level 91

JoeSoap

25-07-23

Reading an article on the Auto Express website dated 17 May 23, it suggests high depreciation in EVs compared to ICE vehicles. If this is the case then the cost of leasing a brand new EV must surely rise to cover the potential loss in value over the leasing period.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...iation-hit?amp

Level 91

JoeSoap

25-07-23

Good news in China though, where according to BBC news you can buy a brand new EV for £8400…

Electric cars are the future, but is the UK ready? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66222554

Level 87

WizzyWigg

25-07-23

Originally Posted by JoeSoap

Reading an article on the Auto Express website dated 17 May 23, it suggests high depreciation in EVs compared to ICE vehicles. If this is the case then the cost of leasing a brand new EV must surely rise to cover the potential loss in value over the leasing period.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...iation-hit?amp

R&D and limited suppliers of motors and batteries (certainly in the UK) must contribute to the high initial cost of EVs. Cars bought early in development will suffer from more significant depreciation. Let's be honest the ICE has been around for quite a while. Is the UK ready -- nope! Will leasing costs increase -- almost certainly! The way electioneering is at the moment I don't see any rush. 👴

Level 91

meldrewreborn

25-07-23

@JoeSoap

I hate to spoil the party but the Vehicle ExciseDuty rules have been rewritten and the low or zero tax rates are going to be replaced. My hybrid currently is zero VED but will go to about £20 in 2024/5. I’ll look it up again in the morning to provide the detail.

Last edited by meldrewreborn; 25-07-23 at 22:45.

Current Eon Next customer, ex EDF, Zog and Symbio. Don't think dual fuel saves money and don't like smart meters. Chronologically Gifted. If I offend let me know by private message, but I’ll continue to express my opinions nonetheless.

Level 91

JoeSoap

25-07-23

@meldrewreborn

As far as I can work out my 2015 99g/km emitting car which currently has zero road tax will move from Band A to Band B in 2025 and will then cost £20 a year to tax.

If I have read correctly then I’m happy with that.

Level 91

meldrewreborn

26-07-23

@JoeSoap

It hellishly complicated and there seeems to be contradictory information so I've decided not to post any links - sorry to all and sundry. But I've alerted forum members to the fact that reliance on old information can lead to problems. The Short point is that as tax take goes down from road fuels due to increased numbers of hybrid and electric vehicles the Treasury will want that money back through other taxes and VED is a soft target, because once you've got a vehicle you have to tax it every year.