Mini Oven

  • wizzo227's Avatar
    Level 23
    Test meal 25-Nov-2023
    reheat mash ( potatoes&parsnip&carrot with finely chopped spring onion and a little bit of butter)
    reheat peas and spinach
    a frozen piece of chicken in batter on top of those
    all in one 8"x4" baking tray in the mini oven

    used less than 0.18 kWh to cook (should cost 6p at usual electricity prices)
    nil electricity bill because I cooked it for free while there was sun on the solar panels
  • JoeSoap's Avatar
    Level 91
    Normal meal 25 Nov 23

    1 x fish pie for two. Take one large casserole dish and cover bottom with Schwarz Fish Pie Sauce. Place fish pie mix on top and sprinkle lightly with curry powder (not too much mind you). Put remainder of sauce on top and cover with pre- cooked mashed potato and make some rustic fork marks on the top. That’s two of us sorted.

    1 x sweet and sour chicken for one. Put some browned chicken, mushrooms and red peppers in a small casserole dish and cover with Uncle Bens Sweet and Sour Sauce. That’s the other one sorted.

    Put both in the big oven and cook for 75 mins.

    Boil rice for the chicken dish and put two pans with different veg to satisfy everyone on the hob too.

    Put plates in small oven to warm.

    Cost a bleeding’ fortune and no solar panels to share the burden.

    Tasted good though 😂
    I'm an Eon Next dual fuel customer with no particular expertise but have some time on my hands that I am using to try and help out a bit.
  • wizzo227's Avatar
    Level 23
    Test snack 22nd January 2024
    270 grams of chips in Belaco cheapo mini oven. I call it a snack because a proper meal should be twice as much stuff:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Z7JMOy6wQ

    0.286 kWh
    Should cost about 9p at the usual price.
    For me, using rooftop solar power which is free, the electricity cost nothing.
  • Indyk_EONNext's Avatar
    Community Team
    Hey @wizzo227

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    I appreciate this was a while back but I would love to know how you got on with your search and if you managed to find the most energy saving cooking appliance?
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  • wizzo227's Avatar
    Level 23
    hot meal 05 June 2025 lunch

    Veggie burger and a huge jacket potato in the cheapo mini oven (microwaved yesterday in a pyrex bowl for steam retention with yesterdays' similar jacket potato; first microwave and then bake in oven with a pinch of salt and a spoonful of best olive oil)
    plus half a raw carrot, an ounce of sliced cucumber, and a forest of salad leaves

    Sorry - no metering on that today but it was in the mini-oven for 1/2 hour, which is 0.72kW, so it could not have used much. That thing was getting about half solar power for free in todays' gloomy weather, so very few pennies for electricity to make a big plate full of food.

    My biggest complaint with the £30 mini oven is the build quality. They could have spent a few pennies more on the door spring and instead used a flimsy one which went beyond its elastic limit in normal use and no longer works. To keep the oven door shut for cooking, I use a plank with a nail in it. That sounds ugly and it is, but it crisps the jacket spud about right and made a really good meal.
    Last edited by wizzo227; 1 Week Ago at 13:38.
  • wizzo227's Avatar
    Level 23
    Test meal 06 June 2025
    Fish And Chips

    It's Friday, so Fish and Chips went in the cheapo mini oven. It was on for half an hour. From the in-home-display with the smets2 "smart" meter, the house total import since midnight went up from 0.321kWh to 0.323kWh before vs after cooking. That is, this horrible little oven is small enough to work for free on a cloudy day like today from the usual generation of the rooftop solar panels. ( well 0.002 kWh was not free. There are a few really dark clouds up there today ).

    I was a bit late to start the veg so today's fish and chips was with salad, cucumber and celery.
  • wizzo227's Avatar
    Level 23
    Test Cake 10 June 2025
    Blackberry and Victoria Sponge Cake in an 8x4 inch loaf tin


    Is it a cake or is it a pudding ? Its blackberries, from the end of the road last year, stewed and in the freezer.
    I shouldn't micromanage how to make ordinary cake mix; many of you know how to use a recipe book or know a better version. For those as lazy as I am:

    stewed blackberry out of the freezer the night before and in the fridge
    equal weights each of: two eggs, sugar, cooking marg, dessicated coconut
    0.5 grams salt
    mix with a fork in a cleaned old ice-cream box until almost even.
    220 grams of self raising flour.
    mix that in with a fork
    dollop on top of some blackberries in a cake tin
    bake in an oven at about 170 C

    The coconut in substitution for more flour was optional. [Too much flour can be fixed with a spoonfull of milk if necessary.]

    Baked in the cheapo mini oven for 40 minutes on "180". Result as pictured.

    Electricity used was less than 0.4kWh, which at usual cap price is a few pennies.
    Carbon Intensity in my region, "South England" was less than 90 grams/kWh, so less than 0.036kg CO2 was caused by the baking.
    Sugar and coconut are grown thousands of miles away, so getting those to the shop will be a major cause of pollution of this cake.
    The worst pollution though; does anyone know the carbon emissions caused to make two eggs and put them on the shelf in Lidl?

    Shopping was done on foot; no extra vehicle moves after cake ingredients got to the supermarket.
    Blackberries had been collected locally on foot and stewed on a plain old electric hot plate "one ring cooker" while there was local solar. Then kept in the electric freezer for most of a year.

    During todays' cooking, in partly cloudy weather, rooftop solar was more than enough to power the mini oven, and the in home display from the smets2 "smart" meter did not go up at all from 0.383 kWh bought since midnight. So literally free cooking thanks to rooftop solar power.
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    Last edited by wizzo227; 2 Days Ago at 14:10.
  • Indyk_EONNext's Avatar
    Community Team
    Looks so yummy 😋 @wizzo227

    Thank you for sharing, definitely a recipe I need to try and maybe with a spoon of ice cream or custard.

    So would you say that the mini oven is energy efficient?

    I do sometimes use an air fryer now and again for a quick cook when it's just me and the children however I feel it does take longer to cook the food which is more costly then my normal over.
  • wizzo227's Avatar
    Level 23
    Like any plain old resistive heater, about 100% of the energy put in is turned to heat. That does meet my definition of 'energy efficient', as do quite a lot of other kitchen appliances. Its heat losses to surroundings are much less than the main oven. I expect that on convenience and so on it is less good. This one is just about scraping it to 'sufficient' cooking temperature from an input of about 0.72kW, which is probably better than most appliances. From the photo, you can see that it is a bit small and that cake wasn't going to last for long. How much time does it take to cook for three in the air fryer by comparison to the main oven ?
    A measure of 'efficiency' is 'how hot does it get in the kitchen?. Boiling over a gas flame cooker is quite poor like that, with half of the flame heat missing the pan, and half of the pan contents not being dinner.

    If you have children, this Mini Oven is too small for a hot meal for three of you, so I'd suggest that you aim to get to sufficiency by a different means to the one appliance for one person. You cannot run a 2.6kW full sized electric oven for free while less than 2.6kW is available, so if you wanted oven cooking for free around noon on sunny days, that would need at least 4kW(peak) or more of solar panels for only the best days of summer to be free. To run a full sized oven for free as often as my mini oven can, should need no less than 9 kW(peak) of solar panels, which is more than you'd be allowed to have on one roof, and 3x more than could ever possibly be fitted in the limited space of my roof. The best that you can do is to get as much solar power as will fit on your roof.

    If you wanted to design your neighbourhood to have sufficient provision for yourself and children to get a hot meal most days, then your neighbourhood needs access to at least enough renewables and without the obligatory gas fired backup electricity which makes everything so expensive. I'd place a lot of the needed renewables where you and the kids are most usually going to be at noon, so that would be whole roof solar at the office and at the school, with new large electric cooking machinery at both (most school dinners equipment will date back to North Sea gas; they might be due to get sponsored for a renewable electric retrofit). To improve utilisation from 195/365 days per year, school dinners machinery should need a Saturdays and holidaytime 'lunch club' running the school dinner kitchen more often than only school days, and possibly adding a third sitting 'pensioners lunch club' after the 1pm bell when the kids have gone back to class. Maximum efficiency of hot food provision should keep the ingredients mainly local, (more potato, more peas, more carrots than 21st century average; less imported beef, less of a lot of the fancier things) and absolutely avoid parasitic losses such as sending money overseas for franchise fees, canteen rent, printed paper branding, and extra costs like that which do not contribute to nutrition. The last large scale saver is to seperately meter and designate the canteen as a 'schedulable OFF' lower priority load; that the school cook has authority to designate today a 'sandwiches day' or anything else which will use very little electricity in forecast 'dull doldrums' weather. With such planning, future meals need not see ever increasing prices.

    So for best £/meal and CO2 per meal at best nutrition and minimum capital investment per person, I say that economies of scale are necessary, sensible forecast based planning should be necessary, and those could help a lot more than would my undersized single person mini oven.
    Last edited by wizzo227; 21 Hours Ago at 14:50.
  • geoffers's Avatar
    Level 48
    Like any plain old resistive heater, about 100% of the energy put in is turned to heat. That does meet my definition of 'energy efficient', as do quite a lot of other kitchen appliances...
    👍 - plus a thumbs up for induction hobs & microwaves too : good article from the National Energy Foundation here
    https://nef.org.uk/what-is-the-most-...t-way-to-cook/