@retrotecchie My Secure Liberty 100 was updated to SMET2 earlier this year by the DCC and is now automatically read for billing purposes. My Liberty 100 is capable of having up to 15 different rates / times according to their spec. Using key No 6 has confirmed this.
Is there any logical reason to deny customers access to an Economy 7 Meter?
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Level 9208-12-23@digger
If it was migrated on to the DCC network remotely, it is still a SMETS1 setup. The only way to make it truly SMETS2 is by physically swapping the communications hub and deploying a manufacturers firmware upgrade to the meter itself. At best, it will be what is known as SMETS1.5. Whether or not this gives the ability for E.On Next to remotely change from single to dual rate is a question you will have to ask them directly. The meter itself has the functionality, but handling SMETS configurations via DCC to remotely configure the meter is dependent on the communications hub and the firmware revision of the meter. It is something that can be done locally by an engineer with an appropriate terminal and the IEC 62056 optical modem.Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player. I DON'T work for or on behalf of EON.Next, but am willing to try and help if I can. Not on mains gas, mobile network or mains drainage. House heated almost entirely by baby dragons. -
Level 9108-12-23Personally I can’t see why a battery shouldn’t be use to store cheap mains electricity for daytime use. What is the possible objection to an environmentally sound proposition?Current Eon Next and EDF customer, ex Zog and Symbio. Don't think dual fuel saves money and don't like smart meters. Chronologically Gifted. If I offend let me know by private message, but I’ll continue to express my opinions nonetheless.
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Level 9108-12-23
I read something a while back but maybe it was about storing off-peak electricity and then exporting it back to the grid at a profit. I think if a system is configured so that this becomes a possibility then that becomes an issue.
I’m no expert of course.I'm an Eon Next dual fuel customer with no particular expertise but have some time on my hands that I am using to try and help out a bit. -
Level 608-12-23@retrotecchie Thank you for this info. I will take this up with EON, though I don't hold much hope of getting a straight answer going on past correspondence with them. When I had my solar panel system installed in July I opted to stay with EON for 1 year to see how it all panned out. I will review my supplier nearer the time. I did see on the spec for the Liberty 100 that the communication module was upgradeable as was the firmware.
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Level 9108-12-23
the likelihood of such a scenario is rather remote. You’d need the purchase rate to be higher than the off peak supply rate after allowance for battery inefficiency. Furthermore you’d need to offset the amortised capital cost. But it would seem to be something that is done in the margins of the supply industry - eg pumped storage. -
Level 9108-12-23
I’ve had a quick look and I think I’ve found the posts that made me think you couldn’t charge batteries from the grid. If you read from the linked post below onwards then you’ll see what I mean. Having read through them again I’m still no more educated…
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Level 2808-12-23
It does seem a bit perverse that you're allowed to charge EV batteries at cheap rate and use that instead of more expensive daytime leccy or petrol, but not charge "home" batteries and use them instead of more expensive daytime leccy ☹️ -
Level 9208-12-23@geoffers
EV's are the 21st Century equivalent of the old 70's and 80's 'Heat Electric' schemes...a way of dumping excess cheap power at night rather than have to spin down generation, only to have to spin it up again next day. And like those legacy schemes, I give it ten years tops.
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Level 9109-12-23
Reading the posts I’ve linked-to I’m struggling to work out what the rules actually are regarding batteries that can be charged from the grid. @LeeDQ_EONNext mentions recent rule changes.
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