What do you think?
£5000 Heat Pump Grant
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2 Days ago I heard about the Governments announcement for plans to go carbon neutral by 2050 by enabling households to switch from gas to electric by 2035. One step towards this is by means of a £500 Heat Pump Grant from April 2022. For more information go to Heat pump grants worth £5,000 to replace gas boilers not enough, say critics - BBC News
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@Landmark I love this so much and truly appreciate that it is just a small step to get us to carbon neutral. That being said, at this present moment in time with electric prices so much higher than gas prices it would still cost a customer much more to heat their home with electric. If the gas prices were more in line with electric then I would expect the uptake would increase.
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Neither is Gas Boilers because of the global climate change emergency.
5 minutes into the above 'youtube' video given, Roger of 'Skill Builder', stated that heat pumps don't work with non insulated homes. I'm not denying that as true, however, insulating homes is not rocket science, and can be done with the correct will to do it (with the help of the coming COP26 climate change conference) For more info go to COP26-Explained.pdf (ukcop26.org)
At 8 minutes into the same video, Roger mentioned it was not worth the extra cost, but then that was before the energy crisis, when the video was published on youtube, when gas prices had subsequently gone up in price, wholesale, by hundreds of per cent!
He even admitted it worked in Scandinavia where the air is mainly sub zero in temperature in the Winter contradicting what he earlier stated that it only works well in a warm climate.
I have been living for almost ten years in an all electric flat with a heat pump, and was warmer than where I live now with my current gas boiler (which I didn't choose since it was already fitted when I moved accommodation), in spite of having insulation and central heating.
In addition, I found that, since changing to dual fuel, the extra cost of being a dual fuel customer, was in the gas standing charge, which mitigated against the increased cost of being all electric.
Finally, any extra cost of going green electric is like burdening any green taxes used to offset our carbon footprint (e.g. the cost of planting trees or investing in green carbon neutral electricity), and the extra cost of switching to electric cars is worth it in the same way as you might buy organically produced fruit and veg to save the planet.
Therefore, my point is that everyone has a moral responsibility to pay extra to save the planet -
I would also agree with the arguments that heat pumps are a good thing. Especially since I actually have insights into a heat pump trial that's going on right now.
I can't share most of the discussions that go on, since a lot of it is in a private forum which I've agreed not to leak anything from. But I can say this. A fair few members who are testing this stuff out are quite enjoying it.
Sometimes, the best way to get an accurate opinion is to actually try it out after all!Last edited by theunknowntech; 18-11-21 at 18:56. Reason: Link fix
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@theunknowntech I can't see the post that you have linked to.
I agree trialing these things is the best way forward and any green every system is one that I would look to implement in my own home. I have dreams of a smallholding, powering my house etc with my own generated energy... One day 😊💭 -
The thread was split and sometimes the links break when that happens. I've updated it with the new location
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Be careful what you wish for. XD
If you think this place is hard to keep up with, try a forum with over 60,000 visitors a month and hundreds of questions every month. It's not as easy as it might seem, but that's why I'm not alone in helping out. Over time, I wouldn't be surprised if someone else comes along and helps out on any forum that they enjoy.
Granted, heat pumps might not be perfect for everyone, but at least they can be powered by super green eco juice if you've got solar panels, wind turbines, hydroelectric or pretty much any renewable sources. Especially if you live up in the Orkney Islands, where there's absolutely loads of wind that's perfect. In actual fact, there's sometimes too much and it often has to be fed back to the mainland to keep it balanced. You can't do that with a gas boiler.
You could even power them with a perpetual motion machine, if such a thing actually existed. Alas, the laws of physics are a thing and that'll never happen...
Mind you, transitioning away from gas would also bring another benefit. The lack of a gas supply also means removing gas meters from the equation, which in turn makes the setup less complicated - and also means you don't have to wait for up to 30 minutes to see how much energy you've just used.