[raregerry]

for any one on drive tarriff these are the timing i have been assurred by eon next,
have asked the quistion why this does not match the website etc?

so be careful when you program your car to charge

The timings are:
Peak - 07:30 am - 00:30 am
Off Peak - 00:30am - 07:30am
BST Peak - 08:30am - 01:30am
BST Off Peak - 01:30am - 08:30 am

[DebF_EONNext]

Hey everyone, I just came across this thread and didn't want to leave you without a reply. So what usually happens if you have a 2 rate meter and have the Next Drive tariff is that it works the same way as an Economy 7 tariff - so you will have a day rate and a night rate that you will be billed to rather than using your half hourly data.

The rates are still the same for 2 rate and single rate customers however the charging times for 2 rate customers are 00.30 - 07.30 rather than 00.00-0700 (then adjustment for BST/GMT) The reason there is a difference in the charging times for the different meter types was because we were seeing customers with 2 rate meters having issues with heating and hot water coming on so the charging times were adjusted 30m to account for this.

If you have a 2 rate meter we CAN put you on TOU rather than a day and night rate HOWEVER you should only consider this if you don't rely on your timer switch for heating and hot water as it basically means your meter runs like a single rate - so again if you rely on the timer this can cause issues with this so we wouldn't normally do this if you have storage heaters etc.

I hope this helps explain things?

[rwh202]

I replied to this on another thread, but what is your full Tariff name?

[raregerry]

drive v3 have been for 4 months still can't get the billing correct

[rwh202]

Well it's just energy supplier incompetence.

i gather you are on v3 2r, so seeing expected behaviour. Glad you’ve found your timings. I got lucky that mine were 98 hours a week off-peak…

initially when i tried to join next drive i was told I couldn't because i was on a 2 rate meter.
Then they magically could and I was put on v2 2r.
Since been told that it’s impossible to use their 30 minute tariffs on a multi rate meter, impossible to switch to single rate and impossible to change the meter timings. All of which are false.

I’m now apparently on V3 (not 2r), using 30 minute data that was previously ‘impossible’

[retrotecchie]

Originally Posted by raregerry

for any one on drive tarriff these are the timing i have been assurred by eon next,
have asked the quistion why this does not match the website etc?

so be careful when you program your car to charge

The timings are:
Peak - 07:30 am - 00:30 am
Off Peak - 00:30am - 07:30am
BST Peak - 08:30am - 01:30am
BST Off Peak - 01:30am - 08:30 am

Those timings are for YOUR specific dual rate meter. Not for everyone! See my response to your other thread for information on decoding your MPAN number.

Set your car to charge using your meter times, not the generic information on the website which only applies to single rate smart meters.

[raregerry]

Originally Posted by retrotecchie

Those timings are for YOUR specific dual rate meter. Not for everyone! See my response to your other thread for information on decoding your MPAN number.

Set your car to charge using your meter times, not the generic information on the website which only applies to single rate smart meters.

car might work, but i have storage heater and hot water is run off the off peak supply that i have no contol over when it become live, hence eon next next to get thier act together and only charge off peak rate when they are supply my off peak supply not on some timing that they come up with,

[geoffers]

Originally Posted by raregerry

for any one on drive tarriff these are the timing i have been assurred by eon next,
have asked the quistion why this does not match the website etc?

so be careful when you program your car to charge

The timings are:
Peak - 07:30 am - 00:30 am
Off Peak - 00:30am - 07:30am
BST Peak - 08:30am - 01:30am
BST Off Peak - 01:30am - 08:30 am

Not sure where they got those figures from but that's completely wrong if they're using the 1/2 hourly readings.

I've been on Drive V2 then swapped to drive V3 (with a single rate meter) since July 2023 so have been through 2 changes of BST/GMT and can confirm the following..

1) The meters actually always record the time-of-use in UTC time, so in the winter midnight is recorded as 00:00 UTC
2) When your local clock time at home is BST in the summer, and your charger starts at midnight BST, the meter records your midnight usage as 23:00 UTC
3) However EOn apply the hour's offset for BST to your meter readings so that your midnight - 7am charging both summer and winter agrees with your local clock/charger times.

I've been downloading the raw half hourly usage from the meter in CSV format from Bright/glowmarkt.com and calculating my actual usage costs to check my bills, and they match EOn's billing correctly.

[rwh202]

Originally Posted by geoffers

Not sure where they got those figures from but that's completely wrong if they're using the 1/2 hourly readings.

Agree, except they aren't using the 1/2 hourly readings.
If you are on a 'V2/3 2R' tariff they use the meter registers. They seem to use these tariffs if the meter is either a non-smart eco-7 one, or some smart ones previously configured as 2-rate that they seem to think are actually eco-7 ones.

[geoffers]

Originally Posted by rwh202

Agree, except they aren't using the 1/2 hourly readings.
If you are on a 'V2/3 2R' tariff they use the meter registers. They seem to use these tariffs if the meter is either a non-smart eco-7 one, or some smart ones previously configured as 2-rate that they seem to think are actually eco-7 ones.

Ahh OK 👍 - probably worth renaming the title/rewording your 1st posting with more explanation as this suggests that all the drive tariff timings are wrong.

I guess this forum is here to actually help other users - not just a portal for EOn bashing 🤣